LLS | I Didn’t Believe in Astrology… Debra Silverman Changed My Mind

Liberated Life Series | Episode 770

Join Josh Trent, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, as he reveals why he went from complete astrology skeptic to believer after one session with world-class Astrologer Debra Silverman. Debra’s framework exposed the exact patterns sabotaging his love and business life for years, patterns that over half a million people have now discovered.

If you’ve been dismissing astrology as “woo-woo,” this episode will show you the science-backed framework that reads your soul like a map and reveals the blind spots that are quietly running your life.


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Listen To Episode 770 As Josh Trent Uncovers:

[00:00] From Skeptic to Believer: Why Astrology Changed Everything

  • Why Josh went from not believing in astrology to becoming a convert after one session with Debra Silverman.
  • How Carl Jung described astrology as “the summation of all psychological knowledge of antiquity.”
  • What the 4E process revealed about the subtle and major blocks haunting Josh’s love and business life for years.

[01:20] The 4 Elements Framework: Earth, Air, Fire, and Water as Your Life Blueprint

  • How fire represents drive versus burnout, and why Josh’s “endless energy” becomes exhaustion when he ignores limits.
  • Why earth energy creates stability versus control, and how Josh’s Taurus perfectionism is actually fear wearing a jacket.
  • What air element reveals about thoughts versus overthinking, and why creativity gets stuck in endless loops of self-doubt.
  • How water governs sensitivity versus suppression, and why Debra told Josh, “You feel everything but trained yourself not to show it.”
  • Why astrology is the “Trojan horse of higher consciousness” that permits you to be who you truly are.

[04:20] Earth Element: When Stability Becomes Toxic Perfectionism

  • Why Josh’s Taurus earth energy creates loyalty and steadiness until it turns into overcontrol and perfectionism
  • How perfectionism is actually “fear wearing a jacket” and why it keeps you living in constant anxiety
  • What happens when your team, partner, and children can sense when you’re stuck in perfectionist mode
  • Why identifying hyper-control patterns is essential for breaking free from fear-based living

[05:20] Fire Element: The Grand Trine That Creates Endless Energy or Complete Burnout

  • How Josh’s grand trine of fire gives him endless energy until he ignores his limits and boundaries
  • Why fire energy creates purpose and momentum, but becomes urgency and exhaustion without balance
  • What happens when you say yes to everyone else but forget to say yes to yourself, completely burning out your fire
  • How understanding your fire element teaches you when to “stop the car” before your gas tank is empty

[06:50] Air Element: Breaking Free from Overthinking and Self-Doubt Loops

  • Why air energy creates creativity and clarity until it gets stuck in endless loops of overthinking and self-doubt.
  • How self-doubt becomes a reality is when you feed it energy and make it your identity.
  • What is the difference between experiencing doubt versus doing “15 years of therapy” on why you have self-doubt.
  • Why you can watch yourself overthinking and choose to stop thinking when you remember you’re the watcher.

[09:15] Water Element: The Hidden Key to Intuition and Emotional Mastery

  • How water represents intuition and empathy, but becomes numbness or resentment when unacknowledged.
  • Why resentment is simply “a boundary or request not being honored by self or others.”
  • What happens when you suppress your sensitivity and hold onto the “hot coal” of resentment.
  • Why society deserves 50-60% more water element, but feeling something doesn’t always mean you can heal it.

[11:20] Scorpio Moon Revelation: Cutting Energetic Cords for Sovereignty

  • How Debra instantly identified Josh’s Scorpio moon and why he “feels deeply but sometimes hides it.”
  • Why deep feelers must cut energetic lines from people at least once a week to maintain sovereignty.
  • What happened when Josh had entity attachments from an unsafe ayahuasca ceremony and how Paul Chek taught him cord-cutting.
  • How recognizing other people’s energy cords and hooks can transform your energetic hygiene.

[12:50] Virgo Rising: When Perfection Becomes a Shield to Hide Behind

  • Why Josh’s Virgo rising makes him “hide behind perfection to avoid being seen” when in his shadow.
  • How Virgo energy excels at service and detail, but can become a perfectionist shield against judgment.
  • What Josh realized about how perfectionism was keeping him from showing up fully in work and relationships.
  • Why does the fear of judgment follow you everywhere, no matter what you’ve achieved or overcome.

[14:20] Astrology as Your Blueprint for Transformation, Not Your Fate

  • Why astrology is a map for understanding your patterns, not a prediction of your unchangeable future.
  • How the 4E process becomes a blueprint for transformation when you integrate all four elements instead of living in just one.
  • Why understanding your astrological blueprint creates lasting change only if you’re willing to act on the insights
  • What daily ritual can help you touch all four elements to nourish your physical, emotional, spiritual, financial, and mental wellness.

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Josh Trent lives in Austin, Texas with his love Carrie Michelle, son Novah, daughter Nayah + a cat named Cleo. He is the host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath + Wellness Program. Josh has spent the past 20+ years as a trainer, researcher + facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. Helping humans LIBERATE their mental, emotional, physical, spiritual + financial self through podcasts, programs + global community that believe in optimizing our potential to live life well.

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