Fertility Expert: Conception Is A Spiritual Process (Disguised As Biology)

Fertility Expert: Conception Is A Spiritual Process (Disguised As Biology)
What if the reason you cannot conceive has nothing to do with your body?
Josh Trent welcomes Ronit Menashe and Vida Delrahim, co-founders of WeNatal, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 826, to explore why fertility is a team sport that Western medicine has treated as a solo event, why the 90 days before conception matter more than any moment that follows, and why the 60% collapse in male sperm quality is not just a biological crisis but a spiritual one.
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In This Episode, Vida Delrahim and Ronit Menashe Uncover:

[01:30] Birth Is Spiritual Disguised as Biology

  • How the type A chokehold of trying to conceive can actually prevent the body from doing what it already knows how to do.
  • Why Vida’s miscarriage stopped her dead in her tracks and revealed she had forgotten why she and her husband wanted children in the first place.
  • Why it is not the event that breaks you but the chance to ask different questions after it.
  • How both Ronit and Vida had miscarriages one week apart in early 2020, and how that shared grief became the foundation for WeNatal.
  • Why Ronit looks back on that loss with deep gratitude because it propelled her to help over 30,000 families bring life into the world.

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[07:00] Masculine Energy and What It Costs Women

  • How Vida and Ronit spent many years of their lives working inside a highly competitive masculine corporate environment.
  • Why being in fight or flight mode every day, consuming caffeine and junk food, and an always-on mentality, created the conditions for miscarriage.
  • Why Vida is sure that her sleep deprivation and nervous system state contributed directly to her loss.
  • How the name WeNatal holds the whole vision: not the prenatal for her, but the WE, the man and woman together as one system.
  • Why miscarriage is 50% linked to male factor and infertility is as well.
  • How women have been put in a box by Western medicine since the early 1900s, and why the disconnect between a woman’s prenatal and a man’s prenatal was one of the most damaging myths in modern fertility.

[13:15] Trimester Zero Is The Most Important Trimester

  • Why the most important trimester is the one before conception.
  • How the 90-day window before trying to conceive directly impacts egg quality, sperm quality, and the lifelong blueprint of the baby.
  • Why sauna, alcohol, and smoking are among the biggest threats to sperm that most couples are never told about.
  • How Ronit committed to not telling herself she was too old and losing time to get pregnant.
  • Why on her first try after trimester zero, at age 42 and with no IVF, she got pregnant with her daughter.

[16:15] Stop Trying, Start Receiving

  • Why words like geriatric pregnancy and advanced maternal age are toxic seeds that plant fear in women and need to be abolished from the conversation entirely.
  • How more women are having healthy babies in their 40s than ever before.
  • Why fertility is a team sport and not a woman’s health issue.
  • How Ronit received her pregnancy test result with such deep letting go that she threw the test in the trash before the result appeared.
  • Why at the age of 34, Ronit was told her ovarian reserve was very low and she chose to set that number aside and trust her body rather than lead her life from fear.
  • Why doing the work means diet, supplementation, mindset, and reducing the toxic burden of plastics and endocrine disruptors, and all three pillars work together.

[23:10] Moving Through Loss

  • Why the work of moving through miscarriage is both physical and spiritual.
  • How Vida rushed back to work after her first loss and pushed the grief down until a different family loss triggered everything she had not yet felt.
  • Why finding gratitude even in the darkest moments, sometimes just the sun shining or a bird singing, is the practice that moves a woman from victim to learner.
  • How the book Spirit Babies helped Vida understand that the soul she lost might still be waiting, and that it may not have felt safe enough to stay.
  • Why telling someone not to stress when they are desperately trying to conceive is insulting, and how finding what befriends the nervous system is more useful than any instruction.
  • Why gratitude has been Ronit’s number one tool through every hardship.

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[29:00] The Safety a Mother Creates

  • How Josh had to sign a medical release form in the NICU to refuse a spinal tap for his son, was told the treatment would be identical whether the risk was 0.0001% or 100%, and had child protective services arrive at his door the next morning.
  • Why that experience revealed how deeply Western medicine treats childbirth as a liability to be managed rather than a natural intelligence to be trusted.
  • Why safety as a mother is the combination of letting go, doing the physical work, and reclaiming the words you allow yourself to receive.
  • How a mother knows her child better than any medical opinion ever will, and why that maternal intuition is more reliable than most protocols.
  • How Ronit kept pushing her midwife team about a feeling that something was wrong with her pregnancy, was told she was fine, insisted on being tested for preeclampsia anyway, and was called in to be induced hours later.
  • Why preeclampsia is the number one cause of maternal death and a simple urine and blood test was all it took to catch it because she trusted herself over the noise.
  • Why Ronit’s pediatrician always asks her what her mom intuition says before giving any medical opinion, and why that approach is a model for what the whole system could look like.

[36:25] What Came Back Online When Life Came In

  • Why children come into our lives to heal our lineage and return us to the wholeness of who we are.
  • How Vida had her entire schedule-driven identity dismantled by a colicky baby who changed every three hours, and how learning to go with the flow was the biggest lesson of her life.
  • How the shift went so deep that Vida began studying Kabbalah, stopped reacting, and transformed so visibly that her husband signed up for the classes himself because he did not want to get left behind.
  • Why Ronit’s lesson was presence, going from a multitasker who could always get things done quickly was held completely still by three years of breastfeeding.
  • How kids show us how to have fun.

[44:00] The BIG Problem Nobody Is Talking About

  • Why men are being called forth on planet Earth right now to hold a different kind of space than they have been trained to hold.
  • How the 60% reduction in sperm quality compared to our grandparents is a reflection of emotional and spiritual stagnation.
  • Why many men have spent most of their lives not dealing with their childhood pain and using substances to suppress what has never been processed.
  • How alcohol, marijuana, and other substances are common in modernity because they serve as antidepressants that suppress what needs to be felt.
  • Why men who are in addiction are not present with their partner and not thinking about what kind of family they want to build.
  • How the subconscious idea that a man is always producing sperm and therefore does not need to worry about fertility is one of the most damaging myths feeding this crisis.

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[50:35] What Is Actually Happening to Sperm

  • Why sperm quality means four things at once: count, motility, morphology, and DNA integrity.
  • What causes men to have 50% less sperm compared to their grandfathers.
  • How dogs are showing the exact same trend as humans because they share our environment, our water, and our toxic burden.
  • Why Dr. Shana Swan’s research found that microplastics are present in human testicles and directly impact sperm quality.
  • If current trends continue, humanity could reach zero average sperm count by 2045.
  • Why this is also the most hopeful number in the entire conversation: sperm regenerates completely every 72 days, meaning the slate can be nearly entirely rewritten in three months.

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[55:15] The Trimester Zero Checklist for Men

  • How heat is the most underestimated sperm killer, and why sauna, heated car seats, and hot tubs all need to come out of the picture during trimester zero.
  • Why the foundation of WeNatal for Him is antioxidants, which protect sperm from oxidative stress the same way lemon juice keeps a cut apple from turning brown.
  • How a woman who had zero viable embryos through IVF committed to the 3-month protocol with her husband and then produced seven viable embryos on her next round.

[01:03:15] Becoming the Case Study

  • How Josh is currently on day 40 of trimester zero, six weeks off TRT, and taking WeNatal supplements with a third child in mind.
  • Why Josh is working with Dr. Kirk Parsley to restore sperm function through HCG and clomiphene.
  • How everyone’s internal geography is different enough to require individualized support.
  • Why TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) leads to zero or very low sperm count and is one of the most common and least discussed causes of male infertility.
  • How 4,000 daily steps has been shown in studies to dramatically boost testosterone in men, and why getting outdoors more is one of the most underrated fertility tools.
  • Why sleep is when hormones normalize, the immune system restores, and the body does its deepest repair.
  • How the personal care products and cookware used every day are often more toxic than the food.

[01:07:45] The Words That Create Life

  • How we are essentially praying all day long through the words we speak to ourselves.
  • Why children between the ages of 0 and 7 have their brain hemispheres connected and speak to themselves the way we all were born to speak.
  • How the phrase “I can’t” is banned in Josh’s home, replaced with “I’m learning,” and why his three and five year olds are already building a different inner architecture as a result.
  • Why the shift in self-talk has to happen inside the adult first, because children do not watch what you say, they watch what you do.
  • Who you spend time with is equally as important as how you speak to yourself.
  • Why being intentional about community is as much a fertility practice as any supplement.

[01:11:20] What Birth Actually Does to a Person

  • Why for Ronit, birth is the spiritual process God gives us to help find our true purpose, and why WeNatal is only at mile one of the journey she was born to run.
  • Why for Vida, birth is the mirror and the soul’s correction, the constant teaching that has made her into a fundamentally different person than she was five years ago.
  • How teaching by doing is the legacy both are building for the daughters who are watching everything.

[01:14:25] Midlife Crisis VS Midlife Expansion

  • Why the question Ronit is sitting in is what the causes of the infertility epidemic actually are and why it is happening to both men and women.
  • How the question Vida wants every couple to sit in is why fertility is still treated as a solo project when it takes two players leveling up from day one.
  • Why changing the narrative around age and fertility matters as much as any supplement.
  • How population rates are falling fast and the most important question is not how to fix it from fear but how to breathe life into humanity in a way that actually feels good.
  • Why stepping away from constant biometric tracking and simply choosing to feel the quality of rest is itself a practice of trusting the body.

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Vida Delrahim and Ronit Menashe
Ronit Menashe and Vida Delrahim are the founders of WeNatal, a prenatal supplement company transforming the fertility space with the first prenatal optimized for her AND him. WeNatal shifts the fertility journey from “me” to “we,” backed by a formulation team of industry-leading Functional Medicine doctors, nutritionists, and fertility experts including Dr. Mark Hyman and Kelly LeVeque. With 24 clean, bioavailable nutrients, WeNatal steps up where other supplements fall short, covering everything from preconception to postpartum for both parents and baby.

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Josh Trent lives in Austin, Texas with his love Carrie Michelle, son Novah, daughter Nayah + a cat named Cleo. He is the host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath + Wellness Program. Josh has spent the past 20+ years as a trainer, researcher + facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. Helping humans LIBERATE their mental, emotional, physical, spiritual + financial self through podcasts, programs + global community that believe in optimizing our potential to live life well.

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Vida Delrahim and Ronit Menashe
Ronit Menashe and Vida Delrahim are the founders of WeNatal, a prenatal supplement company transforming the fertility space with the first prenatal optimized for her AND him. WeNatal shifts the fertility journey from “me” to “we,” backed by a formulation team of industry-leading Functional Medicine doctors, nutritionists, and fertility experts including Dr. Mark Hyman and Kelly LeVeque. With 24 clean, bioavailable nutrients, WeNatal steps up where other supplements fall short, covering everything from preconception to postpartum for both parents and baby.

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